The Travails of Ghostwriting
I am learning the ropes of ghostwriting. We have some wonderful writers here on
bebee.com, so the path is easier. Some of the realizations that have smacked me in the head have come hard. It has given me the basis for questions to ask those of you more knowledgeable in here.
One of my head-slaps is shit—I can’t tell anyone I wrote this. How do I develop a reputation if I can’t point out what I’ve done?
So far I’ve told my first client that ghostwriting is like Attorney/Client privilege. (He’s a lawyer.) I cannot point out anything I’ve written as mine—it’s his—he paid for it.
So my strategy was to accept a fraction of what I am worth and do a terrific job, so I could start my reference list. But I am a ghost.
I essentially don’t exist. What reference list?I am hoping I am fortunate. My first client is a relative. He is a consummate professional. He has viewed my writing and believes I can do this for him. I believe it, too. He has given me the topics he wants me to cover, and he is not going easy on me. I want to believe he will recommend me if I wrap myself around explaining the law to the common man. I have found my resources, and embark on a journey to surround myself with books in a law library in the coming days. I am a consummate researcher.
Paul "Pablo" Croubalian gave me some understanding of what occurs as a ghostwriter, but there must be more I need to know. I’m asking those of you in the know to share your thoughts, ideas, and knowledge when it comes to ghostwriting. Are those trade secrets?
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Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA
6 years ago #22
I had this experience. I was engaged as a blogger. Then, they asked if they could run some of the posts "uncredited". Next thing they are crediting their own employees as the writer and some content appeared on other sites. That's when I put my foot down. Rates from now on will be clearly spelled out 2X the rate I gave them for the uncredited pieces, 4X if they want to credit an employee. If they want to run it on another site, it will be 1X the rate per usage if I am credited, 4X the rate if uncredited, and 8X the rate if they want to credit it to an employee. A full buyout will be 12 times the rate. I am really not interested in doing ghost writing.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #21
many thanks to Paul \ and @phil friedman for information. I think coupled with what I've learned, we've got it all.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #20
"Why me?" has been haunting me all night. It's because if the story is not told, it can happen again. The children's stories break my heart. I am still in touch with one--now grown into a wonderful, angry woman. I can give her some peace. I can grab all the victims and give them a literal hug. It's for them. I drove myself to learn writing for them--not for me.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #19
understood. If I do do the job I am hoping for with this client, I am hoping he will promote me. He is a sweet intelligent man. I adore him like a son. I am so very proud of him. My wish to do the very best job I can for him stems from the family connection. I know once I experience this I can do the very best job possible for any client. I can make a living at something I love. He has given me a great opportunity. He is a wow lawyer. I push him to use bebee.com at every opportunity.
Lisa Gallagher
6 years ago #18
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #17
Okay--some of what Timothy welch was true. "Unless you don't like the notoriety nor want your name everywhere..." I've been in the spotlight. I've been in the news. I didn't like it. I've been in seclusion for decades hoping people would forget. I now realize while I'm waiting for people to die off, I'm dying off, too. My post Deception lays out the bones of the story I have to finish. I just really want to live a quiet life and make enough for food and shelter. If I finish my book and get it published, my brand would be complete, but any chance for a quiet life would be gone. I know the story should be told, but, "Why me?"
Anne 🐝 Thornley-Brown, MBA
6 years ago #16
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #15
I have been published under my name. Most has been free. I've never been a big one for making a buck. Now I need money and I have a skill for sale. Bigtime publishing is a bear. There are many, many writers out there to compete against. Seeing your name in print gets old fast. I simply have a love for the craft and now have the opportunity to get paid to do what I love. Yea--I have a big time story to sell on the sidelines, but I'm having a hard time finishing it up. In the meantime, eating becomes extremely important. Yea--I agree--you watch too many movies.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #14
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #13
Loved it, Gerald.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #12
I'm probably too soft. The guy wanted to flip me out a check for the entire rest of the year, but my superego stepped in and said wait until you see the first blog. I had urged him to check out two of my blog entries here and he did, I suppose. I just want to be sure he doesn't kick himself later. I know I'm good, but it's been a while since I traipsed around law books.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #11
Thanks, Deb.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #10
Great, Gert. Thanks for taking the time to search for me.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #9
chuckle and a half, Gerald. You are certainly evil. I just want to make a living doing what I love. I have a book woven into my word processor that I need to finish up, but it's on heinous child abuse, and the topic is emotionally straining. I love the idea of doing something as innocuous as ghostwriting.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #8
I've landed the work as I mentioned in here https://www.bebee.com/producer/@joyce-bowen/ghostwriting-and-other-adventures. I'm ghostwriting one blog at the moment; hopefully, that will translate into more. This is all great information. I was hoping for such stuff. I found it difficult to be stumbling around trying to figure it out on my own. Paul \ gave me the lowdown after I asked him some questions after I realized I could not reference the work as mine in any way.
Phil Friedman
6 years ago #7
Phil Friedman
6 years ago #6
Gert Scholtz
6 years ago #5
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #4
Thank you, Paul. A new Twitter feed will have to wait until I generate enough income. I can't afford you for both *smirk* Maybe I can just work one myself for a while. Great advice overall though.
Bill Stankiewicz
6 years ago #3
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #2
Many people consider themselves to be writers--not just lawyers. I think unless you have gone through the education surrounding writing, people don't have a clue. I think, for me, until I went through my one-on-one course with an English professor, I did not have a clue. What a shock it was. I just happen to be lucky I have a degree in psychology that can help me help others understand that it's okay to be an expert in one thing and not be an expert in all things.
Joyce 🐝 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee
6 years ago #1
I love the law, and I love writing. I absolutely love the idea of traipsing around a law library and have located one close. The problem will be more about ripping myself away from the books long enough to write. I hope to develop a clientele of lawyers. I hope my first client will be like the hub of a wheel gaining me enough clients to support myself.