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disagreeing is bound to happen :-)

@Greg Rolfe 

@John Rylance 

Thanks for polishing a point Greg "the The Hebrew in Genesis 1 uses the word “Bara" meaning to create out of nothing"

"By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible." - Hebrews 11

The caveat is “by faith”  .. “what the ancients were commended for”

Faith is what you cannot see 💜

.. faith is what is yet to be ..

John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.  Here in we see all three definitions of creation as described by @John Rylance.  And as He mentioned the third takes faith that the Bible speaks the truth.  @Fay Vietmeier lovingly and passionately seeks to describe the reality of the third.   Please notice that scripture does not say how God created, simply that He did.  The Hebrew in Genesis 1 uses the word “Bara" meaning to create out of nothing.  It is often easy and actually quite fun to debate what we do not know.  Though in the long run very pointless.  

The point of creation was that it was accomplished for the very real agenda of demonstrating love. There is no point offered by the “Big Bang”.  For those who ONLY hold to the Big Bang faith, you live a life without a point and that by any measure is sad.  

If you consider your life fr from sad then by definition you do not only hold to the Big Bang faith.  2 ½ out of three, I guess we are on our way!!

To create something you need things from which to create it. Each of these items need to have been created, and those need to be created and so on ad infinitum.

Best summed up by Buzz Lightyear “ infinity and beyond ”

Or the Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe that gives the answer as 42.

@Ken Boddie  perhaps a few more cans of baked beans might not clear the air but at least explode a few myths.

My philosophy is if you don't know the answer make a joke about it. It might be the truth.

You say none of us were there in the beginning, Greg, but if you believe the physicists, the Big Bang happened 13.8 billion years ago, and matter cannot be created or destroyed, and all of our bodies are made up of matter, therefore yes, we were technically there and, furthermore, we are all 13.8 billion years old.

As for what happened to initiate the Big Bang, I have it on good advice that the matter we now call Chuck Norris ate a huge can of baked beans. 

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 I like your posts, Greg. They gave me food for thought. We don't know about the very beginning of the universe or whether the universe had a beginning at all. But, even though “no one was there” to see it, science can offer answers to many things which happened millions of years ago. :)