Facts fiction opinion
Fact fiction opinion
This morning I was watching a few short videos and read a number of posts just trying to get a sense of what was being presented as truth. As was normal, most of the posts and videos were opinions presented as fact or truth. Those posts and videos that referred to actual facts were minimal. But as I said this is now normal, from my personal experience from the last year or two.
Personal opinion expressed as fact seems to have become the norm. Why? Is it because it is easy? Please understand many of the posts and videos I reviewed were by rather intelligent people. (Some not so much, (personal opinion)). Again, there is nothing wrong with posting an opinion. Saying that I prefer one item over another or one policy over another is acceptable. But are we not requiring facts in order to say one is right and the other wrong?
I expect that it is possible I am reading too much into things these days. I expect we could debate the very concept of facts, as I am coming to believe that this idea is also becoming fluid. Are we becoming scared to have actual honest debates? A discussion where we are looking for the most correct conclusion? A conversation where being wrong is acceptable?
We appeared to be scared of so much these days. And while yes this is most definitely my opinion it is based on observation. If your observation is different than my own, this is an excellent time and place to express that.
For those reviewing this for facts you will have noticed that I did not cite any of the posts or videos I reviewed, nor did I link anything. So, you are in fact very correct, this is not a fact post, it is simply my opinion.
Blessings.
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Greg Rolfe
1 year ago #11
One walks one way and another, another. Which is correct? Perhaps the one that is open to conversation, if that is both, even better.
Pascal Derrien
1 year ago #10
Not often I am correct and it is so sad in a way we have lost our ways …
Greg Rolfe
1 year ago #9
Hi @Pascal Derrien, I order to have a civilized conversion both parties must agree to listen to the other party. At any time we decide the other party is lying or just massivel ignorant bordering on stupid listening generally ends. I guess the truth is we have to respect the other party to have the necessary humility to actually maintain a civilized conversation. And as we know that ship has sailed in many situations. So, in conclusion you are correct.
Pascal Derrien
1 year ago #8
pretty hard to have a civilized conversation nowadays on any medium or face to face :-(
Greg Rolfe
1 year ago #7
Yes.
Greg Rolfe
1 year ago #6
@Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris I agree with your perspective based on your perception of social media. I have never heard of Kialo. Thank you for the tip.
Greg Rolfe
1 year ago #5
@Franci 🐝Eugenia Hoffman that is a reasonable perspective. Reading carefully would then be required. This takes us Bach to Ken's point, that our command of Reading skills has diminished resulting in more issues. Huh.
John Rylance
1 year ago #4
I agree
Its my self-opinioned belief that our opinions should be based on provable facts taking into account the opinions of others, making us better able to respond with our own considered views when asked Whats your take on this?
I'm entitled to my own opinion,but not necessarily the facts on which they are based.
Zacharias 🐝 Voulgaris
1 year ago #3
I found the Kialo platform a great way to do some deep cleansing of the mind, separating facts from fiction, in a debate setting. The whole place there is super dry (since it's just logical arguments presented, usually very factual) but very soothing. There are some communications that are more opinion-based but they usually remain private. Definitely worth a look.
What I find more irksome and perhaps troublesome about opinions presented as facts, particularly in social media, is that often this is accompanied by an attempt to manipulate. The more adept in this dark art tend to use humor and ridicule too, creating a subtle but very real division in the people reading a post. Then again, that's just my view on the matter and maybe I'm reading too much into this…
Greg Rolfe
1 year ago #2
@Ken Boddie, I believe you have struck on a real point, the decline of people's ability to write well and speak accurately increases the proliferation of opinion. Though you are most likely correct in that this is far from a new problem. Opinion presented as fact is most likely a very real historical reality. I would expect that it has become more visible of late due to the increase in social media and other information “now” sources.
If indeed this is an historical truth and is simply more visible at the moment, then nothing has changed except perhaps our recognition. Then this could be seen as improvement or at least a chance at improvement. (silver lining) Have an amazing day sir!
Ken Boddie
1 year ago #1
As you may remember, Greg, the subject of fact vs interpretation vs opinion is a pet peeve of mine, particularly when opinion is purposely either disguised as fact, or the facts are manipulated to substantiate a biased opinion. I’m not sure that such blatant misrepresentation of the data is a recent and increasing trend or not. After all, politicians have been leading us up the garden path with their poorly substantiated or purposely misleading manipulations since time immemorial. Perhaps with Trump et al, in more recent times, and with the circus of certain newshounds that prop up the concept of ‘false news’, I suggest that what were previously relatively subtle dalliances with the facts have become much more blatantly obvious blusterings of the near-demented. As society’s command of, and skills in using, the English language diminish, then capable orators disappear, to be replaced by clowns cloning the jaded jargon more akin to fairy tales and pantomime than convincing argument.
Blame social media and the language of texting for the spiralling descent of language. Everyone else does, and that’s my totally unsubstantiated opinion.